I think many students get overwrought trying to define "minerality" more precisely than is possible. Rocks and minerals are actually two separate entities, but that's another discussion. I have heard all sorts of descriptors - from limestone and granite to sandstone, red sandstone, hot red clay, and many more. It becomes meaningless. You can line up (and I have) samples of limestone, granite, basalt and whatever other rocks you choose and smell them - there will be no difference. You can lick them (I have done that as well) and they taste the same. It's clearly not the aroma and/or flavor of the rocks that humans can perceive. That said, there is a distinctive scent of seashell or chalk dust in some examples of Chablis. So too, there is a consistent character of Mosel Rieslings that we sometimes call "slate" in recognition that the wine was drawn from slate-based soils. Since we can smell and taste slate from the Mosel and not find any distinctive character in that exercise, we must logically conclude that the distinctive scent has some other origin. It becomes a sort of circular reasoning - we think the wine is from the Mosel, so we call it “slaty,” more as an affirmation of our imminent conclusion than a direct sense of a rock type. So it is with limestone, basalt, granite and other rocks. We associate familiar wine characteristics with those terms based on our knowledge of the soils from which they are drawn.I encourage students to develop an earthiness vocabulary that covers inorganic and organic expressions of earth. “Inorganic” can encompass terms like wet stone, dusty, graphite, seashell and chalk, because we can pick up seashells, chalk, etc., smell them, and perceive a distinctive aroma. To go beyond that - declarations of limestone, sandstone, etc. - gets a bit precious for me. It is not as much a description as it is an initial conclusion. “Organic” earth is a broader and somewhat more precise category. We can find mushroom, forest floor, barnyard, compost, potting soil, tobacco and beyond in wines because we can smell those entities and develop an olfactory memory of them.
While sommeliers are almost universally successful in identifying new oak in white wines, they typically overestimate its presence in reds. Save for high-end bottlings of Bordeaux and Burgundy varieties, and full-bodied, fruit-driven New World wines such as Zinfandel, new oak usage is an uncommon and expensive endeavor for the world's traditional wines. Understanding the precise aromas imparted by a $1300 new oak barrel is tremendously helpful in deductive tasting. A classified growth Bordeaux and a traditionally produced Brunello di Montalcino should never be confused on this basis. –Geoff Kruth MS
Concluding New World or Old World origin from alcohol and acid structure is overly simplistic and likely to lead you astray; Australian Riesling exhibits some of the highest levels of acid found in a white wine, and Barolo regularly exceeds 14.5% alcohol. However, I consistently find a perceptive character of fruit ripeness in New World wines that helps me separate the two. While a CDP may in fact have higher alcohol and lower acid than a typical Zinfandel, it is unlikely to achieve the vibrancy and fruit forward mid-palate of the later. –Geoff Kruth MS
Thank you for that! I searched "stem" in the search bar and was very happy to find your link. Here is part 2: www.internationalwinechallenge.com/.../stem-inclusion-part-2.html
Stem Inclusion