Rod, if you're in the business of SELLING wine, as almost all contributors to this stimulating discussion are, the use-function of romance and mystery is minuscule. Of course we're cynical! Since very few wines worldwide conform to an absolutely non-manipulated (and therefore substandard) "natural" expression, we now need to adapt in ways Greg (brilliant!) and others here have detailed so clearly. I think he gets to the core problem:overripeness. That is what changes water use, yeast use, acidification, and some enzymes probably too. True "wines of place" are always barely ripe, and exist in the narrow margins where weather and water necessitate minimal yields and extreme selection. Think Urziger Wurzgarten, Cote Rotie, and Grand Cru Burgundy. They are accidents of nature, and notable for their understatement. The romance and mystery is that in some lucky vintages they are mindblowing. And yes, they all have manipulations of differing sorts. Sulfur to stop a fermentation, anyone? How about a bag or three of sugar in that tank? Got viognier to coferment with your chilly hilly syrah?
By comparison, West Coast US and South Australia and Mendoza are all deficient in the natural limitations of the production cycle. What was that you were about to say about Sonoma Coast?
You’re breaking my heart, Kevin. Abdicating the romance and mystery of wine in the face of cold, hard commerciality seems, well, cynical. But you’re right, there is some reasonable manipulation (see my teaching analogy, above) and then a line beyond which the wine’s true nature is compromised. I would say that playing fast and loose with the organoleptic profile, i.e. with acid, concentrate, enzymes, and tannin, is going too far. Any other opinions?
Well said Kevin. As a fellow Canlis sommelier I could not agree more with Gramercy being an easy sale. It is up to the sommelier or wine steward to sell these types of wines. It all about the approach you take to the guest. At times I personally enjoy a fat and extracted wine, they have there place. I call them "fireside wines". They are not to think about or have with food, just guzzle.
As far as manipulation goes. My big issue is the whole "mega grape" or some other additive to make wines more concentrated than they already are. Seems silly and basically cheating. I have surely tasted wines that seemed artificial. Kevin remember the Pinot we tasted recently? Interesting thread nonetheless.
BTW great info Greg. Thank You.
Thanks Greg for the perspective check. I've personally long since divorced myself from the idea that wine is some ethereal product of the gods, given to man to express the essence of...whatever.
Yeah, it's extraordinarily important to us, and I think that truly great wines often show an unmistakable sense of place. But I've given up my romantic notion that my favorite wines must be culled as the product of a vintage and place, minimally handled by humans, happily displaying the vagaries of the vintage.
Seriously, once you've taken your first wine course; visited your first winery; taken your first business course; met your first winemaker; understood that winemakers are trying to actually make good wine and SELL wine... where's the line? Tell us: What's manipulating wine and what's not? You've got to draw a line somewhere; where should we start? No, really. Where?
To Master Harrington: I find your wines an easy sale, but you do have to know how to set people up for them. I often ask people whether they're looking for something fat and extracted, or for something with good concentration that's elegant and polished, with some old-world complexity, or something to that end. They end up in the latter camp most of the time. ;)
Scott Labs is a GREAT reference for much of this information, especially when it comes to yeasts, enzymes and other additives. Their catalog is fantastic and very easy to read. I highly recommend requesting it and getting familiar with these products.
www.scottlab.com/.../downloads.asp